This Episode:
This episode is all about Brad’s report back from VO Atlanta!
We discuss NAVA, what it’s all about and what they are doing for the voice over industry
Carin Gilfry is a superhero!
Brad share’s some takeaways, especially some wisdom he cleaned from VO Business mentor, Tom Dheere, the VO Strategist
Brad met Louise’s hero Tina Morasco
Then we discuss – Is the VO community actually a nice place?
And finally… who is the mysterious Sabrina Farrows?
Transcript:
00:00.47
Louise:Hi Brad how’s it going.
00:01.37
Brad: Hey hi louise good I’m not distracted at all hold on.
00:15.29
Brad: Ah, paying attention is for fools. That’s not true. The opposite of that is true I don’t here we go. It’s hey happy happy day to you? how.
00:22.80
Louise:Wow, We’re off to a great start. Um, oh boy So hey, happy day happy day. Yeah I didn’t actually ask you I just said happy day happy day. Ok anyway.
00:32.70
Brad: Good. It’s some. It’s so it’s good so far I’m oh oh I’m sorry I I’m just going to answer Anyway, that’s fine now I wasn’t answering for your sake was answering from each of the audience.
00:40.23
Louise:That’s fine I don’t actually want to know ok for the audience. How are you Brad How’s your day going? Oh no problem. Yeah yeah.
00:52.67
Brad: I’m good I’m good. It’s going good. Thank you for asking I really appreciate it. Um, so thoughtful of you. It’s very thoughtful of you. Oh it’s going to get oh it was so nice for a few days and then now it’s back down in like the 30 s or something like that as fahrenheit sorry ah I don’t think it’s that cold but it’s.
01:07.57
Louise:Oh we’re talking about the weather. Ok yeah, yeah, we’ve I we’ve actually had some beautiful weather here in Vancouver too. But it’s supposed to get raining again soon now.
01:11.10
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just because it was super nice. And yeah yeah I I was wearing shorts on Saturday and then or Sunday and then just to run the house and stuff. It’s not like it was out but um, then it got cold again. So it’s cold now.
01:26.00
Louise:Your waveform looks bigger than mine again and I’m mym I’m angry about it while ok Huh interesting.
01:30.72
Brad: Boy oh boy on my side. It looks like they’re about the same. So in fact I was just thinking Wow our waveforms look the same. Let’s us rename the podcast The waveform Update show.
01:42.81
Louise:Um, let’s do that. Let’s right? We Also update you on weather event weather events you know.
01:46.30
Brad: And now for the waveform. Update segment of the podcast. Ah yes, you know sometimes I forget that we’re I mean we just kind of messing around and I forget that we’re recording things that people are going to listen to.
02:05.44
Louise:Yeah, we I can tell um ge I’m try I try to reel you in when whenever possible. So you’ve been back. It’s about a week and a.
02:05.72
Brad: Which which I think the passes led me down paths that I probably.
02:15.81
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the last? yeah.
02:17.94
Louise:Bit since voice of Atlanta the last podcast episode 7 so we’re episode 8 I remembered yay me ah on episode 7 We talked about sort of the the lead up to voice over Atlanta and how you’re feeling about it. We also covered diaper fetishes and something about a male enhancement product.
02:26.59
Brad: I Remember Um, thank you and. Yeah, we also.
02:37.67
Louise:A video that was 45 minutes long that a friend of ours had to voice um a sad. Oh yeah, ok.
02:38.82
Brad: Man I have a sad update about that I have a sad update waffle house adventure waffle house adventure was good. It was very fun. Ah. Have a new friend Dez Mee and it was her first she was in with the group and it was her first time ever at waffle house. So I got to sit at the table with her for her first experience. Ah yeah, well, you’re canadian you have an excuse I don’t think you have them up there. Ah.
02:57.82
Louise:Wow I’ve never been to a waffle house either. Thank you, Thank you? so.
03:10.49
Brad: So Ah I don’t know what happened but somehow somebody was and I’m not naming names but somebody was in charge of the voting part of the the award the waffle Award. And somehow I don’t know. Maybe there was just confusion or or misunderstanding or but that ended up not happening and nobody even I I know I know but I I didn’t but I didn’t and I didn’t want to be like the one that was like hey guys we got to remember to do this since I was one of the nominations and it would look like I was just like pushing for it.
03:29.27
Louise:There were 2 entries. How did they not vote that it’s ridiculous.
03:44.61
Brad: For my own like kind I mean it kind of is it. It will be so that didn’t happen I know I know I know I’m so sorry.
03:44.69
Louise:Ok, it’s not the Oscars I mean come on is all right? Ok so that never happened which is so disappointing because that was the main update I was waiting for I don’t care about anything else.
04:03.21
Brad: And we don’t make it to use that that would have been a great opportunity for you to put a drum roll into the sound effect sure and the winner of the 4004 winner of the.
04:03.34
Louise:Um.
04:08.53
Louise:Oh man can I Just do the drum roll anyway. But wait I did too soon.
04:21.78
Brad: Vio Atlanta Waffle Award is undecided undecided unknown I could just say it was me and we could move on I’m the.
04:24.75
Louise:Um, ah D to ok all right.
04:35.52
Brad: If nobody voted then if I vote then I won because I if I’m the only voter then I got 1 vote Charles got zero votes I win so I am now henceforth forevermore here to for an award winning voice actor. It was fantastic.
04:41.85
Louise:Okay, how.
04:49.71
Louise:Voice actor shop bring you um, could which could or could not mean mushroom. Well it doesn’t matter. You don’t speak crunch. Ok.
04:55.41
Brad: Oh what? Oh wait. What? what? what could mean mushroom ah got it. Why is mushroom and and.
05:05.73
Louise:Shopping Ya’ll actually means mushroom that.
05:12.19
Brad: Like the winner of something so similar and the thing you drink like the champagne champagne champion shit. Yeah maybe they’re all related. What’s that the word that means the history of a word Apple and.
05:13.22
Louise:Oh I’m not sure.
05:20.60
Louise:Shang Bang They’re all connected.
05:30.14
Brad: Something bail me out bail me out. Ok it was it was great yeah no, no no let let let me just say it was really great. It was fun. You know you show up on Thursday and it’s like um, it’s like the first day of summer camp. You know what? I mean you’re like running into all the people you know and you know.
05:32.57
Louise:Ok, we’re getting off track here. Let’s ah.
05:37.59
Louise:Just that’s really yeah, you know.
05:44.49
Louise:Right.
05:49.93
Brad: From across the way you’re like you hear like hey there’s Brad and you’re like hey um, so that’s all super fine and um, just getting to see everybody again and then Friday was a first full day Friday was a little wonky for me I think I I think I messaged you and I was like I’m feeling kind of weird today.
06:07.28
Louise:Oh yeah, you sort of felt like you wanting to kind of sit in your hotel room for a bed and decompress or recharge or which I can relate to so much like.
06:08.66
Brad: Ah, it was like high Yeah yeah, I just kind of wanted to hide like yeah so it was weird friday afternoon I kind of wanted to hide I’m like I wish everyone would leave me alone and then by Friday evening. I was like why isn’t why aren’t more people talking to me why like why don’t I have more friends. Why am I a complete failure. Why am I a loser here demonstrating to everyone who like insufficient I am yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was fine and I managed it and um, yeah.
06:29.24
Louise:1
06:36.88
Louise:Well I mean the rabbit holding is that’s spiraling. Okay, well good.
06:46.92
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then but but then that was Friday and then but Saturday was great I I really got a lot more out of the sessions on Friday we just just just a lot more settled in and then then we went to waffle house and then came back and everyone was kind of at the hotel bar. And just haven’t I didn’t drink much I I don’t think I drink it all that night but I was just like just enjoying myself and chatting with people and and and people I hadn’t seen because we were all leaving the next day so it was like the last day of summer camp you know and there was an amazing moment where Tracy Lindley and Karen guilfrey. 2 of my you know voiceover heroes were at the bar talking to each other um in I don’t know it was just cool. It was like watching Spiderman and Zaro like chilling out and having a drink together. Um, yeah, and Kevin Kilpatrick who heit seen.
07:36.73
Louise:Ah, that’s awesome. Yeah.
07:43.84
Brad: He’s another you know, kind of hero of mine who I’d seen around and said hi to him and and but he’s always so busy and he’s always got people all around him. Um, not like Karen though current or Karen she has she like floats through like the lobby with 5 people trailing her like ah. Queen or something is she’s like so magical like it’s so weird and she like floats three inches off the ground like for real she does. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she’s important you know what I mean and I don’t mean that I mean she runs Nava and she’s.
08:06.83
Louise:That does not surprise me at all. She seems like extremely magnetic and amazing. And yeah. She She’s one of the founders. Yeah.
08:21.39
Brad: Yeah, she’s really driving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she’s really a driving force in the um, the a I how how we as a as a industry are tackling Ai and.
08:36.10
Louise:So can you just? um, briefly for those who are listening who don’t know what Nava is because I think unless you’re an american and specifically if you’re an american voiceover. You may not actually have ever heard of nava.
08:38.69
Brad: And.
08:46.51
Brad: Yeah, yeah, it’s North American Voice actors I think voice North Norton jesus petess north american voice actors might be ah.
08:57.48
Louise:I thought it was the national association of voice actors. Ok so it’s that’s why I say it’s USCentric it’s not that North America is not yeah.
09:01.70
Brad: Yep, that’s it you got it. You got it. You got it. You got it? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s true because of or north that and then that would be Mexico and Canada and yeah, but it’s not.
09:13.80
Louise:So and Karen Golfry is one of the founders who who you were just talking about and um briefly can you just give a little overview of what nova does. Yeah.
09:15.16
Brad: Yeah, yeah.
09:23.20
Brad: Yeah, so they first sort of started as ah, ah as the the idea was to help non-union voice actors have access to health care which is part I think the reason it’s Us based because that’s a pretty important. Thing to focus on here ah to help freelancer freelance actors, voice actors who aren’t in the union and seg after ah, have access to health care which they’ve accomplished like that was that was mission number one for them I think it was that was yeah I mean that was kind of the the point for them to form.
09:42.33
Louise:Yep, really.
09:52.70
Louise:That was that’s it which is amazing. Yeah.
09:59.98
Brad: Um, and they and that’s a really tricky thing to do here in the United States and they were told at the beginning that it just wasn’t going to work. They weren’t going to be able to do it and they’re like yeah hold my beer and they made it work and now.
10:15.80
Louise:Um.
10:16.46
Brad: I would imagine thousands of voice actors in the states now have health insurance because of them. Um, we ended up going through the Maryland exchange and we found a better deal than what they had um to offer or a better coverage. Um, but but but when looking at. Um, the the possibility of going full time and leaving my job around a similar time that lacy was looking at leaving her job ah day jobs um, knowing that we had that as an option was a huge part in making me feel comfortable in doing that. Yeah, and.
10:51.93
Louise:Yeah, yeah, so they’re really great advocates basically for independent actors, voice actors. Um in the United States and then the other point you were going to touch on is the the ai things so Ai for those who are listening who may not now.
10:55.44
Brad: Yeah.
11:08.26
Louise:Is ah it’s a huge concern in the voiceover community in terms of um, what rights voice actors have and um, what kind of ownership or control they have over their voices which right now is basically none and so nava are actively working towards changing that right.
11:25.73
Brad: Yeah yep yep, yep they’re yeah they’re going. There’re they’ve spent a considerable amount of time lobbying and and going in and meeting with legislators in the United States sitting down with them because they like the rest of the world. You know.
11:27.71
Louise:And did I get that right.
11:44.45
Brad: If you’re a congressman or a senator. You don’t even know that voiceover exists as a industry. Um, they’re very well aware of how because of the strikes how the Ai you know the Ai technology is impacting writers and people in the film and Tv industry.
12:01.69
Louise:Right.
12:04.35
Brad: But Voiceover just hasn’t been a part of that conversation. So they’re sort of leaning in stepping in saying hey this impacts us more probably ah and more immediately and we need some help and so they’ve really done a lot to advocate for for us.
12:17.95
Louise:Um, yeah, and if there are ah voice actors out there who are interested in. Um I think you just download their a I writer so that you can you can send that along with.
12:24.13
Brad: In the in the Us.
12:35.00
Louise:Contracts to clients where you know you? if you know you’re just looking for sort of additional protection in that regard. Um, that’s available I I believe that’s available to anyone. Yeah yeah.
12:46.94
Brad: Yeah yep I believe you’re right I believe you’re right? Although you should join absolutely it’s I it’s like one hundred and twenty dollars a year or something and the amount of work they’re in doing to invest in all of our future and they also offer free classes and in ah.
12:53.91
Louise:That they’re doing it. You can also donate I think as well. Yeah.
13:04.63
Brad: For the community and really good stuff. So and they sponsor you know they sponsor view Atlanta and a bunch of other conferences. So um, they’re they’re super important. Yeah, so to see her and.
13:06.49
Louise:Call.
13:14.98
Louise:So thanks Karn Gil free a al.
13:19.46
Brad: Yeah, and Tracy Lindley is sort of a guru of of Linkedin marketing and I’ve really been pushing on my Linkedin presence over the past few months um so to see the 2 of them and they’re both like just super cool strong super intelligent motivated important people. And our community. So it was really just I don’t know it was just cool. It was ah seriously it was like watching you know Batman and and Spiderman just like hanging out and having a a drink. It was cool. Yeah I and I got to talk to roe a little bit friend of the podcast rowe. Ah and.
13:48.60
Louise:I Love it I Love it. It’s great.
13:55.10
Louise:Bro marsh. Yeah.
13:57.85
Brad: Yeah, yup and it was really nice talking to her and yeah and of course Troy and Charles Coates Charles Banes you know the the crew from the vo life gang and then I got to hang out with Casey Hotig again I’m just dropping some names in case, my friends are listening Casey and I met on the.
14:14.20
Louise:Are.
14:17.57
Brad: Boss on the way to the airport last year at the very end. It was just the 2 of us and she sat down started talking to me. She is a newscaster in I think Raleigh North Carolina um and she and um, she. She just sat down next to me and we just started talking and her husband is in space force and I don’t know and maybe not everybody knows how big of a fan I am of sci-fi and space stuff and um so to meet someone whose husband is in the space force is cool and i.
14:37.14
Louise:Next Yeah rules.
14:53.10
Brad: And um, there’s a rumor I don’t know I she was talking about moving up here to the DC area actually so her and her husband and so I don’t know. Um, so ah, there’s a chance that I’ll get to hang out with her and her husband and lacy and I maybe at some point or something like that so would be cool.
15:01.50
Louise:Um, ok.
15:11.40
Louise:Neat.
15:11.80
Brad: So just seeing just lots of really cool people and ah you know managing my yeah yeah, we’ll call it social anxiety I guess and um, managing my ability to to um interact and be focused and be engaged and stuff was pretty good.
15:20.61
Louise:Yeah.
15:31.36
Brad: And um, little you know sometimes it needed a little more management than others. Um, and yeah.
15:37.74
Louise:Right? And any big takeaways You you’d mentioned in the last episode that this year you were going to be more sort of business focused in the in the workshops that you were attending as ah.
15:47.98
Brad: Yeah, more.
15:54.31
Louise:As opposed to the previous year where it was maybe more performance focused I guess so how was that did did that oh ok, yep.
15:57.55
Brad: Yeah o well last year last year I was focused more on e-learning just the whole industry of e-learning like how to book e-learning. Ah what e-learning. You know how elearning works what clients you know how to do marketing for Elearning. Um, but this year yeah I was more focused on business development and that went’ really good I I really feel that that was a good focus for me at this point and um, you know so ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, a lot of it made me feel like I’m on ah in a good place I’m on ah on the right track? Um, my my parents were.
16:19.46
Louise:Any big takeaways. Yeah.
16:31.85
Brad: Business owners growing up and so I feel like I absorbed a little bit of that and just to set my own sort of entrepreneurial. You know, whatever intuition. Um I felt like I’m in a pretty good place I did pick up some new stuff one cool just little bit that it was like 1
16:38.69
Louise:Um, right.
16:49.70
Brad: Bullet point on 1 slide Tom Deere is a voice actor but he’s also a business coach like a voice business coach and um, he does well a mentor will say he’s got a mentoring program and I’m probably going to do a few so look at doing a few sessions with him I talked to him a little bit after and super nice guy.
16:58.26
Louise:Um.
17:04.57
Louise:Sorry, what’s his name again. Tom dear ok.
17:08.61
Brad: Tom dear DDHEERE oh I left his card outside of my desk. Maybe I have it here I don’t think I do I’ll get it in just a second. Maybe while you’re talking I’ll still about and get it. Um.
17:25.31
Louise:Ah, or I can I can Google him.
17:26.37
Brad: But just like ok um, but his his session was the and I’m going to um, his session was all about ah it was the 4 4 words that can ruin your business or something like that and it was like. You know luck was one of them. You know like a lucky break. You know if you’re waiting for your lucky break. It’s not going to happen so who is that kind of stuff I don’t I want to give away all of his his Apple sauce. But um, but there was one bullet point that really resonated with me and he was talking about us like ah the sphere. Of interaction. That’s not the word he used, but that’s the word I I kind of like to use and the idea is this so when you’re first starting out in voiceover or any other sort of business endeavor you think of all of the people you know all the knowledge you have all the equipment and gear you own all of the expertise you have. Is is a ball and it’s a very very small ball because you’re just starting out right? you you don’t know people you don’t know things you don’t have techniques you haven’t had any coaching but as you as you meet new people as you learn new things as you interact with new opportunities blue.
18:25.26
Louise:And. Right.
18:41.84
Brad: That ball grows a little bit and when it grows a little bit you find out more things you didn’t know and you learn a little bit more in bloop and it’s not just not just a ball of your knowledge, but it’s a ball of interaction with people and you go to ah a conference like this and bloop it grows a little bit bigger and. Um, so it with each little with it. It’s just with at least with each little expansion of exposure you have or networking you do or knowledge that you gain that ball just kind of continues to grow and as it grows it intersects with more other people’s balls.
19:19.96
Louise:Right? oh.
19:21.34
Brad: Right? Um, and so and and so it just kind of keeps keeps growing and the more it grows the the easier it gets or the more likely you are to interact with other people and and whatnot and so yeah, perhaps perhaps.
19:36.22
Louise:It’s like exponential growth I guess is sort of perhaps yeah like.
19:40.71
Brad: And and that’s not like this crazy. You know super mind-blowing concept. But what it really The reason it really struck me is I think about all the these things that I do that don’t have an immediate ah roi right? like this podcast. For example.
19:42.39
Louise:You know, groundbreaking when it really.
20:00.46
Brad: Right? Like we We don’t make any money off of this podcast and we’re probably not raking in clients because we have a podcast and but in in putting energy into something like this it grows your bubble a little bit more Because. Ah, you’re putting yourself out there people are coming across it. They’re hearing it they they know who you are now so bloop your your bubble grows up a little bit going going to a conference. Ah you could just focus just on the knowledge stuff. But it’s meeting the people. It’s Talking. It’s Networking. It’s it’s sharing that those are the things that grow your bubble and.
20:21.89
Louise:Right? right.
20:35.29
Brad: All all that really did for me was give me a really nice framework to think about the intangible things that I’m doing to grow relationships um like joining the the voice of her book club that I joined or doing the the local meetup group that I started. Um.
20:49.76
Louise:Yeah I suppose it’s the idea that you you’re you’re continuously planting seeds and they’re you know for a lot of a lot of the time they’re they’re developing underground before they might even start to just germinate a little bit. You know like it takes that takes time. It’s and I always think that’s a really good.
21:03.86
Brad: Yeah.
21:09.74
Louise:Um, is that a metaphor or a what is that an analogy right? That’s an analogy is it I was forgotten. Let’s just go with that shut up Louise ok what else.
21:14.51
Brad: Um, now. Yeah, yeah, yeah let’s go with that I was in I was a theater major. Not an english major. Um, so yeah, so that that just those probably that that was 1 thing that just really really sort of helped me visualize. What. And and and understand the value of what I’ve been putting a lot of energy in and as far as the networking and the expansion of of who I know and who I’ve talked to and who knows me and um, so yeah.
21:38.55
Louise:Um.
21:44.14
Louise:Well I I just found him online. So Tom dear it DHEERE and his website is just exactly that it’s wwwdot Tom Deer and dot com.
21:49.47
Brad: Here? Yeah yep, that’s right.
21:57.29
Brad: Yeah, but what’s his coaching website hold on. Let me just skip the card I’m all tired of bible can hear me.
22:06.22
Louise:Yeah I Guess that’s just for his um for booking him as a voice actor.
22:12.94
Brad: Okay, way simpler than I thought it’s just vo strategist video strategist.com yeah yeah okay let me doing it.
22:18.45
Louise:Um, oh be O Strategist dot com all right? Well have to put this in the show notes as well.
22:33.70
Brad: And he has like you can sign up for free and you get access to ah all of his blog posts and a bunch of material and ah then for a small amount you get access to all of his video material which all looks pretty good. And then he also does an actual mentoring program and you pay you know a certain amount of month and you you get sessions sessions with them each month and you can reach out to him and ask questions. So I think I think I’m going to do that with him. Super nice guy, very knowledgeable.
23:03.87
Louise:That’s cool, nice and you mentioned that you got to see my hero Tina Morascoe who I coached with in the new year I
23:12.76
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in fact I that was remember last ah podcast episode I had set a challenge that I was going to find her introduce myself to her and I did ah it made it made it easier. We were both standing at ah, a table.
23:23.80
Louise:Yay communities here.
23:28.43
Brad: In the exhibition hall. Um, talking to 1 of the vendors and I looked down and that was because I didn’t know what she looked like I looked down and saw her name on her name badge and I’m like oh this is my chance and I said hey my best friend best v o friend I guess I don’t know you.
23:47.82
Brad: Oh now I Yeah I walk I walked into a no no I was like no no actually the opposite I’m like wait I Actually don’t have a better friend I’m like wait.
23:48.90
Louise:Ah, ah now you’re like well I have another best friend that’s not avia that’s fine Brad I’m not that doesn’t offend me.
23:59.34
Louise:I Don’t know how to feel about that.
24:06.65
Brad: I walked into what yeah I’m going to stop digging in the hole. Anyway, yes I said my best friend in the whole world. Um Louise loves you and just finished and she’s like oh my god I miss her so much she said I felt like we were friends and now.
24:07.46
Louise:Ah, ah, okay, anyway, you taught you introduced yourself and you said world Louise yeah.
24:23.47
Brad: Now it’s gone. It’s over and she’s gone and I don’t get to see her every week. Yeah, yeah.
24:25.90
Louise:Ah I feel exactly the same way. Yeah, yeah, because you you sort of it’s like that you’re building a relationship with someone as much as it’s a professional one. It’s like you’re you’re you’re growing because you’re learning from them. So It’s really it’s sort of hard to like. Like let that go and be like okay back to yeah.
24:43.13
Brad: Yeah, yeah, and she was super nice and 1 thing I want to stress and I I I feel like I’ve mentioned this before but I I want to mention it again because it’s it’s so true. Yeah, listen to every episode. fair fair. fair fair fair fair fair fair fair ok ok ah
24:52.82
Louise:It’s ok because I’ll tell you something not everybody’s going to listen to every single episode. You can be repetitive. It’s fine I’ll allow it.
25:02.78
Brad: The the voiceover community is unlike the unlike experiences I’ve had in the live theater community. Unlike what I understand to be the case in the the um film and Tv industry. Whatever the voiceover community is the kindest nicest. Most helpful, most friendly most sharing community of people I’ve ever met in a professional context. It’s crazy and.
25:29.66
Louise:Yeah I I have to say even though I haven’t been to an actual in-person conference just the online community for the most part um is one of the re I don’t know how I would have stuck with this ah being.
25:36.93
Brad: Sure search or.
25:47.44
Louise:You know a solopreneur without that community. You know like just yeah, exactly what you said so kind so giving so supportive encouraging all the things. Yeah, there’s going to be Wanker isn’t it.
25:53.63
Brad: Um.
25:59.78
Brad: Yeah, and there are some wankers but um, they’re singular right? They’re like and and yeah and everybody kind of knows who they are and they they like it’s so weird like everybody’s so nice that they kind of.
26:06.98
Louise:And any industry. Yeah.
26:14.21
Brad: Even make a place for the jerks right? and they’re still like yeah I know he’s a jerk but and um, and even like a jerk by voiceover So community standards would probably still be pretty nice by a lot of other industry standards I’ll say that because they’re jerks but they’re also sharing information and they’re also giving free.
26:26.80
Louise:Maybe here here.
26:33.66
Brad: Ah, you know they’re just sharing their knowledge and they’re giving what they have and they’re giving back to the community. They’re just do it in kind of a bratty way sometimes.
26:44.54
Louise:Brady wow that’s kind. Um I’ve seen some outright harshness but again just to just to emphasize that that is not the norm. Yeah.
26:48.27
Brad: Ah, ok that that’s fair. Yeah,, that’s that’s what I’m trying to say Yeah yeah, and ok, yeah, some people are actual I was thinking of somebody specific but you’re right there there are like actual jerkosaurs that. Kind of mean that that want to like kind of push people down but that’s very rare and they don’t they kind of everybody kind of everybody kind of understands that that’s what they’re doing and they just kind of like deal with it. You know what? I mean.
27:07.39
Louise:Jerk his sorts. Yeah, um.
27:23.57
Louise:Well because at the end of the day. It’s these people aren’t being criminal criminal or um, you know they’re just sometimes ah like harsh and unkind and um, maybe reactive.
27:28.20
Brad: Criminal. Yeah.
27:38.87
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:40.80
Louise:And so that’s not I mean that’s just sort of a you know, take it with a grain of salt or take it or leave it or you don’t have to take it at all you just, but there’s still a part of our community and and there’s still you know.
27:47.74
Brad: Yeah.
27:55.86
Louise:They’re contributing and in their way as well. Which is I think probably what you mean? it’s like there’s nothing. Nobody’s getting ousted although I can think of 1 person actually but we’re not going to get into that what happened last year yes but it was just it was somebody being um.
28:02.80
Brad: Um, yeah, oh really.
28:13.78
Louise:Attacking people sort of by name and stuff and and it seemed to be a little bit unhinged and um, that is so rare that never happens though. So when it does I feel like it’s like a big deal.
28:20.71
Brad: Um, yeah, there’s also the what what’s the e that what yeah, what’s the Emailer’s name that Troy and and Nava they’re doing a lot of investigating now to ah what was the the um.
28:33.91
Louise:Oh the person that keeps emailing so voice actors and under fake names. Ah Sabrina Farrow or something. Yeah Sabrina if you’re listening, you’re being investigated. They know they know who it is.
28:37.43
Brad: Under fake names. It’s ah it’s a woman’s name that yup, that’s it. That’s it. That’s it’s it. That’s it. Yeah, you are oh they know they know and I know they know because it’s somebody in our computer in our computer in our community that is like a person.
28:51.60
Louise:Ah, really yeah.
28:57.34
Brad: Who And that’s why they’re doing it under this pseudonyms and because they don’t yeah and I think they’re pretty sure who it is I think they’re pretty sure they’re just gathering evidence I don’t It’s not somebody that I know um but know off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, getting.
29:01.97
Louise:Ah, and you think do you think you know who to I’m not asking you to name them. But do you know it is oh ok, interesting. Wow we’re getting into sort of like Gossip territory now but Tom so let’s it’s fun. It’s definitely fun.
29:17.89
Brad: Isn’t it fun. Yeah, let’s some. Yeah so just to yeah yeah, let’s just tell you not on the the view Atlanta thing was was really good. Had a good time. It was hard coming back because you’re gone for four days who loses a lot of catch up to do last week and um.
29:21.10
Louise:I mean I don’t I don’t feel like we’re being harmful but let’s maybe just get back on track. Yeah.
29:35.82
Brad: I’m still feeling a little behind actually um and and follow up with people which I’m not that good at um so it was good. Thank you for asking.
29:38.17
Louise:Um, right.
29:47.63
Louise:Hey I was super curious to hear how it went we haven’t actually had a chance to chat because like we didn’t record last week because we were both super super busy. Um I’m busy again this week but I thought we should make time just for even if it’s a short one. Um, and.
29:50.45
Brad: Yeah I know yeah.
30:01.85
Brad: Um, yeah.
30:05.56
Louise:Oh so you had mentioned to me I think yesterday if I am messenger it was what you were trying to use a new ah program to like organize your clients or something called Moxie was that it K So what’s going on with that I mean just.
30:10.18
Brad: Ah, what is this gonna be oh yeah, yeah yeah, I’m looking at it I’m trying to figure. Yeah.
30:23.00
Louise:I Want to add it makes me crazy anytime somebody mentions some kind of new thing like spreadsheets or like anything I’m just like oh I don’t want to know. But.
30:28.73
Brad: New platform or I know yeah.
30:34.41
Louise:Please let tell tell us about it. It might help somebody. It’s not going to help me at least not right now other than giving me anxiety. Ok.
30:37.14
Brad: I haven’t yet. Yeah I haven’t decided if it’s going to help me either I’m still looking at at it. So What I’m looking for is a solution where it’s just sort of the a client facing project management tool where. It’s super easy. The the problem I’m trying to solve is ah you know as I’m building my direct marketing career getting off of the platform like we’re doing everything I can to get away from the platforms as much as I can to build my own business of direct clients. It’s getting harder and harder to manage it all and to like.
31:09.78
Louise:Um.
31:14.48
Brad: Keep in my head. Oh I’m doing this for that person and that for that person there I’m communicating with all of them via email which is kind of a mess right? because it’s mixed in with all my other email and they may go back to a thread from. Ah. Three months ago to include an attachment for the thing I’m doing for them now and it’s just really kind of crazy and chaotic. Maybe other people have a solution to that I I don’t know but what I’m hoping what I’ve been hoping to find is something that is platform based and.
31:33.36
Louise:Got it.
31:44.78
Brad: It’s either already set up or I can set it up so that I can say hey you know cool I’ll I’m going to do this explainer video for you and then this is somebody you know direct. It’s not an agent or you know, um.
32:00.80
Brad: Here Can you fill out this form and it it gives me all of the information that they need and they can include their script and all of the requirements and stuff like that they submit that that gives that information to me then it takes them to a contract for them to sign or to confirm and then and then it take. Gets all that information and ideally we’d be able to communicate within that app or through email but funneled into the app would be fine too. But so and then and then I can kind of manage that job within that app within that platform and then at the end kick out a ah um.
32:38.35
Brad: A invoice right? and that also be attached to everything so it’s sort of like I’m just looking for a platform that allows me to manage the workflow with the client ah instead of like I I think my understanding of like monday.com
32:39.31
Louise:Invoice. Yep.
32:45.39
Louise:Gotcha.
32:55.96
Brad: It kind of does that but it’s all internal right? It allows me to track all of the things. But I’m not interacting with the client through the platform and I think from what I’ve been able to figure out in the testing I’ve done I think I can do that with Moxie um, because that’s kind of what it’s meant to do. However, it’s not very voiceover- centric and or it’s not voiceover Centric at All. It’s freelance in general which means it’s very broad and you have to kind of like finagle it to do the things that make sense for us and you have to sort of hand buildild. All of the automations and stuff. Um, it kind of is but I feel like once you get it set up then it would make things work so much easier because all of those things that I just said I can see all of the pieces that it does all of those things and I’m just kind of struggling.
33:32.29
Louise:Um, it sounds like a nightmare like I yeah like.
33:39.92
Louise:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:50.23
Brad: To get it all wired up correctly. Yeah yeah for sure and maybe by next week I’ll be like the yeah, forget it. It was too much work. Yeah.
33:53.42
Louise:Well, you know keep us posted I have nothing I can nothing to add or offer to that. It’s just yeah I don’t I I I’m happy just I Just you know emailing and ah invoy.
34:05.25
Brad: How yeah you don’t ever feel like you’re losing track or you’re having a hard time keeping track of everything.
34:11.28
Louise:No I label everything in my emails. So like I create labels all the time and so everything’s just labeled like that that works for me because I can see it all. But I don’t know and then yeah, that’s but I mean maybe I’m just kind of old school and I just I don’t want to overcomplicate my life and that.
34:17.63
Brad: Ah, yeah, yeah, well if this doesn’t work then why.
34:31.26
Louise:That that just the least complicated thing for me.
34:32.25
Brad: Yeah I feel like this is complicated on the front end setting it up but then it simplifies everything? Yeah yeah, yeah.
34:39.60
Louise:Um, that’s what I mean I don’t time for that like I I got I got work to do and and auditions to get out. So just like yeah yeah, but anyway.
34:49.63
Brad: Yeah, no I hear that? yeah so I don’t know I Just thanks for asking that was cool um to share I guess I hope it’s interesting I don’t know all right anything else.
35:02.40
Louise:Ok, well um I know I don’t have much I have to be honest I just I have so much to do today that I kind of wanted to keep this fairly short and sweet anyways and just check in with you mostly about v atlanta and um, yeah I think.
35:10.59
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:17.95
Brad: Cool all right and I think is it fair to note that we’re looking at getting some guests to interview. We have a few people in mind that have already expressed expressed that they’re interested and um and could be some good things coming up.
35:25.92
Louise:Yes, definitely yeah, we’re We’re always kind of working on that always trying to think of of people who might be entrusted and keep things entrusting.
35:36.58
Brad: So if you’d like to be interviewed on the inside voices podcast please email us at connect at the inside voice podcast.
35:43.14
Louise:Connect at the inside voicepodcast.com I was supposed to be getting that to like roll off my tongue more easily and I have to say I really.
35:51.44
Brad: I know also I want to say and we should probably mention this upfront at the beginning of the episode if you do enjoy or you’re getting any value or or or you just are tolerating us well enough if you can drop us. Drop a review in Apple Podcasts or Apple Itunes or whatever it is that would be super awesome and super helpful. Helpful.
36:16.11
Louise:Right? Because it’s not the only one that you can actually do because Spotify don’t think has a rating thing like you I think you can leave a written review but you can’t 5 star rated or something. Yeah.
36:23.80
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so wherever you’re listening to us if it’s possible to leave a review please consider doing so because because it helps our ego a lot. Um, and.
36:32.20
Louise:Yeah, or and subscribe. Yeah, ah a lot.
36:39.96
Brad: In Theory Also probably helps people find us. So yeah, cool.
36:41.80
Louise:Yeah, there’s that too. It also just makes me more nervous every time but that’s ok, the price of fame.
36:48.90
Brad: Sure I know all right? Let’s are we gonna try and do a ah closing tag this week
36:54.28
Louise:Um, oh oh no, ok yeah, um I Ok you got anything.
37:06.17
Brad: No I don’t me could pass this week and come back around next weekend or next week um we’ll i.
37:10.30
Louise:Ah, we might have to we Also I Maybe we just need to pick one at this point because like how how how yeah in a spread taint.
37:17.70
Brad: Um, yeah I got to go through and compile them all and and see me here’s what we’ll do next week if I get it together I’ll compile them and we’ll audition them. We’ll like read through each one of them and then we can either decide or we can figure out how we’re going to decide. Yeah.
37:34.12
Louise:Um, yeah, ok sounds good all right. Thanks again. Brad yeah.
37:35.69
Brad: Cool all right? Yeah yeah, I’ll talk to you later and um, keep using your inside voice Whoa I Just accidentally made one. Yeah yeah I mean not a great one. But yeah cool. Do it again.
37:42.54
Louise:Oh you just did it. That’s great. Can we do it again with the the full whisper etc.
37:54.38
Brad: Um, oh yeah, cool, cool, cool. Yeah yeah, what did I say.
38:00.72
Louise:You said keep using your inside voice. So one of us has to whisper. Um your inside voice. Yeah.
38:00.72
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right? all right? Everyone have a good weekend. Keep using your yeah, all right by.
38:09.66
Louise:Inside voice Bye Brad