This Episode:
Why are we talking about… diaper fetishes? What kind of podcast is this, anyway?
Brad is getting ready to go to Voice Over Atlanta! I big conference with lots of attendees… and lots of opportunity for social anxiety! How’s he going to deal with it?
Also, how do we keep our heads up when revision requests cause your confidence to nose done? Checking our ego at the door, the importance of honest self-assessment, and Dealing with rejection in voice over.
Transcript:
00:01.84
Louise: Checking 1 2 3 like that looks pretty similar to me. Ok well, whatever, we’re going to try it for today. Hi brad.
00:02.29
Brad: Check check Jack check check check check now yours looks way bigger.
00:17.16
Brad: Um, Louise how are you good where where where we were just talking about our levels ah like to me like I see years.
00:20.40
Louise: I’m I’m good I’m good. How are you doing.
00:32.38
Brad: I Don’t think it spiked but like where you when you said hello you see it’s a lot bigger.
00:36.22
Louise: Yeah, and you were yours were bigger than mine for a long time. So I like and now it’s a contest now who can have whose gain can be higher I think I’ll actually I’ll just turn mine down slightly slightly because you’re right, It does look a little.
00:41.33
Brad: Um, yeah I think I The biggest. Yeah yeah.
00:55.14
Brad: Um, yeah I mean you can fix it all after I’m just I’m just trying to yeah I’m just trying to make less work for you. That’s that’s my only concern That’s what I’m concerned about is how much work you have to do after we hang up.
00:55.95
Louise: Crazy I can I’ll just turn it down and on right now and see.
01:04.82
Louise: Sure brad sure you are so this is episode 7 isn’t it. Yeah, we’re up to 5 on air.
01:13.67
Brad: Um, seven yeah yeah, yeah, can we can We make a commitment and I think this would be very important to me that we know.
01:24.13
Louise: Ok.
01:29.47
Brad: Definitively what episode it is before we start because I don’t it’s a pet peeve of mine when podcasters are like is this 5 is this 5 is this 5 or six I came like like it’s no no no no I’m just saying this is something that I’ve I feel have completely.
01:39.40
Louise: Um, did you just call me out.
01:47.56
Brad: Just this is just me personally like I it’s my own little weird thing that I always wish podcasters just knew which episode though now that we’re in this I get it because it’s like we just launched five five but 6 is recorded and now we’re recruiting 7 and yeah.
01:50.86
Louise: Yeah.
02:03.57
Louise: Yeah, because we’re a little ahead and the other thing is that on you can’t see it because I’ve got ah the Zencastr software but um, because of some tests that I’ve done my and I haven’t erased them. Ah.
02:06.21
Brad: Yeah. You have the con.
02:21.15
Louise: It says I’m on recording nine. so I so I had to think in my head I was like ok well we we’ve got we are up to 5 on air I know I’ve got to edit number 6 still or not edit I don’t really edit them I just make them sound pretty as pretty as possible. Um.
02:23.71
Brad: Um, ah you have to subtract to? yeah yeah.
02:35.90
Brad: Yeah, yeah, anyway, that’s enough Meta discussion I’m sorry to bring that up. But maybe that’s an unrealistic expectation and maybe there’s a reason almost every podcaster has a hard time keeping track of what episode it is.
02:39.39
Louise: And then yeah, so yeah, well yeah, Okay, thanks.
02:50.60
Louise: Well now I’m going to be self-conscious about it. So I’ll definitely know next time. Thanks Brad! Yeah yeah, well ok so you are going to voice over Atlanta ah tomorrow.
02:53.28
Brad: So mission accomplished. Yes, all right? Let’s talk about some real things. What’s going on man. yeah I’m yeah I’m going to voice over Atlanta and yep, that’s right leaving tomorrow.
03:07.20
Louise: And ok, so for anyone who’ is either not a voice actor or just doesn’t know what what VAlAtlanta is it’s a voiceover conference. It’s from ah March seventh to tenth. Um at the Hilton Atlanta airport it’s I’m reading right? off the website. The world’s.
03:23.25
Brad: I Was gonna say you have to be reading that because I don’t even remember all those.
03:27.80
Louise: The world’s largest and longest running voiceover conference. So it’s it’s a big deal and brad is going this is your is this your second year. Yeah, you went last year yeah Yeah so um.
03:33.97
Brad: Second yeah, that’s right? yep.
03:41.36
Louise: I Guess I wanted to ask you how you’re feeling about it. Are you ready? Are you nervous. What’s going on.
03:46.74
Brad: Um, so yes, and no and kind of I don’t know I’m excited to go I have it’s great I Just as you know the voiceover community is amazing.
04:00.45
Louise: Yeah.
04:01.81
Brad: And I have these friends I have friends all over the country and in other countries and this is a great opportunity to get to see a lot of my friends. You know that I normally only get to communicate with online and um, yeah.
04:11.32
Louise: Yeah, that would be so fine I like that’s 1 reason why I would love to go at some point.
04:18.13
Brad: It is super fine and and we have what what and this is like 1 of the strategies I have for because it’s scary too. You know it’s not a huge conference. It’s a thousand people um but still it’s ah it’s a very personal a very personal conference I’ve been to huge 75000 people conferences. And everyone there is just an npc right? You don’t interact with them. You don’t unless you’re deliberately networking or whatever. But at voiceover atlana and other regional conferences as well. There’s a lot of regional conferences if you’re not in the voiceover industry just be aware of that. Ah.
04:42.18
Louise: Yeah.
04:53.24
Louise: You mean for voiceovers. There’s a lot of regional. Ok right.
04:54.98
Brad: But this is the biggest one This is the did that for voiceover. Yeah yeah I am um so it’s a thousand people which isn’t huge, but it’s a thousand people that are all sort of inner connected in lots of ways. Um, and ah.
05:12.79
Louise: Um.
05:14.90
Brad: And you’re there. You know you’re there to just make connections and meet people. That’s just one of the things you’re there for you know? Um, so it is intimidating and so one of the things that I decided last year to do is in 1 of the Facebook groups that I’m in and that we’re both in and I have a bunch of friends. Put out a post. They said hey everyone who’s going to vo atlanta let’s start a chat group just for us just for the people in this Facebook group that are going to Vo Atlanta and so and I think I talked about this a little bit and so when I arrived I had 8 or 10 people that I’d already been talking about already been. We’ve been communicating about what. Sessions you’re doing or what we’re going to do and when we’re going to go. You know if we could go get dinner together and so we did that again this year and it’s been so helpful. So I have this group of people some of them I met last year and became really you know good friends with and some are new and so we’ll be able to sort of.
05:56.81
Louise: Um, right.
06:09.71
Brad: Welcome them into this fold and we go to we we ended up going to waffle house because the nice restaurant next door was like it was taking us forever to get in so we just went to waffle house so we so we decided to sort of make that our thing so on Thursday night we’re all going to waffle Thursday night.
06:26.40
Louise: Oh nice, nice and can you can you tell? can you tell everybody who the people are do you want to like say their names like personal last names or get their permission probably Troy Holden yeah
06:29.14
Brad: Yeah, so we’ll all go to waffle house. We’re doing a.
06:37.46
Brad: I would have to yeah I mean it’s Troy and charles the voice and Charles Bae Troy Holden Charles Bain and ah how you write my I my headpace is here. Not I don’t no I don’t think she is.
06:46.70
Louise: I forgot to ask Alice is she going now we would know as she was going. Yeah, ok so Troy Troy Holden for sure and am.
06:54.50
Brad: And I think she’s not going. Yeah.
06:58.94
Brad: Yeah, um, so ah, oh man I just got derailed I was going somewhere So anyway, so so I’m excited. Yeah yeah, and we have and so we’re going to waffle house and we we’ve we initiated the waffle award. Um.
07:02.62
Louise: Sorry I derailed you Oh my God So you’re going to waffle House you’re making it. You’re saying yeah.
07:16.30
Brad: We all? Well the idea was that we would all submit the weirdest voiceover we’d ever done. Um, and in the end and then we’d vote on who did it and then then the winner would be revealed at Waffle house. Yeah yeah.
07:29.58
Louise: Oh that’s so fine. So you’ve already submitted. You’ve already submitted your things and then ok oh.
07:33.85
Brad: In the end only 2 of us I did yeah in the end it was only 2 of us that submitted me and Charles the voice. Ah I don’t know how much I can talk about mine. It was um ah it was. It’s just not appropriate.
07:53.79
Brad: It was like it started out like this is weird and then each each thing he booked me to do got weirder and and less appropriate and it just was a kind of it was about no it wasn’t the wizard thing.
07:55.70
Louise: Ah.
08:06.65
Louise: Was this the wizard guy. Oh ok, all right.
08:11.91
Brad: Which was also a contender but this was it was it was a diaper fetish thing I’ll put it that way. Ah and it was it got it as it got more graphic I finally had to say you know what? I’m uncomfortable with this I’m cool with whatever you know what? I mean I’m cool with whatever works for you Man that’s cool, no judgment.
08:15.48
Louise: Oh wow.
08:28.59
Louise: Right.
08:31.70
Brad: Um, and at first you know how they kind of I think I think we’ve talked you and I have talked about this before or you’ve experienced two where it starts out just on this side of the line and then it creeps up to the line and then it goes over the line as far as appropriateness and what.
08:45.41
Louise: Yeah, and I feel like you learn over time. You’re like ok when people are being vague. It’s like yeah or if you think if you think something is possibly just for like someone’s personal fetish use if you think that likely.
08:51.41
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so there was ah the styper thing and then.
09:03.23
Brad: Um, yeah, and and that’s what and that’s what this started to? yeah yep I Yep I agree and and for me I I decided I started like if if it were to go any further.
09:05.18
Louise: That’s what it is and then you have to decide whether you’re ok with that or not I mean I’m not saying that you know do what you want to do. But yeah.
09:19.59
Brad: With either the wizard thing or the the diaper thing I felt like it’s I’m getting into the territory of feeling like I’m a sex worker right? because then you’re providing just titillation for somebody’s personal use and I’m I’m just that’s not the right choice for me. Um, no judgment for people who.
09:32.98
Louise: Yeah.
09:38.98
Brad: As far as make ah a living off of doing that. That’s that’s great If you’re comfortable with that. But I just got really uncomfortable and at at a point where it crossed a lot the line for me I was like you know what? I’m this I’m not comfortable doing this and you know then they found somebody else I imagine but.
09:55.58
Louise: Um, and so this was the thing you submitted for the waffle awards.
09:57.85
Brad: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I submitted the type you think and I’m not I and I don’t know if I’m going to win because and I I probably shouldn’t talk too much about Charles but Charles the voice is submission but it was ah for a a. Ah, male performance. Not even male enhancement without getting graphic. Um, but it was forty forty five minutes long it was a video and it was trying to get you to buy a product that increased the volume.
10:20.14
Louise: I’m already laughing I think that’s all you have to say I mean 45 minutes ah
10:33.81
Brad: Of production. Let me just put it that way I I don’t want to get anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was very like it used all the words. Um, yeah, so I I won’t be surprised if if he wins plus his mine was just the raw video or raw audio and it was earlier on when I wasn’t.
10:35.94
Louise: Um, oh wow, that’s.
10:41.57
Louise: Oh my goodness.
10:53.35
Brad: You know I was less polished as I think I might be now. Um and but his is like in this finished product video 45 minutes long so he definitely definitely has me on production value and audio quality.
11:07.76
Louise: Um, I’m speechious right now like if I actually feel a little bit embarrassed. That’s ok Wow but so and nobody nobody else. Um I I feel like this is an I feel like people need to submit before tomorrow.
11:13.29
Brad: Um, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no oh yeah, the deadline was the twenty ninth of of February. So yeah.
11:26.12
Louise: Oh ah, can you extend the deadline I Troy’s got to have something.
11:28.40
Brad: If somebody had had submitted something else. We would have accepted it Troy I he may I’m sure he has something but maybe he was just too embarrassed to post it or something I don’t know plus he pride if.
11:40.29
Louise: Okay, all right? well.
11:46.77
Brad: Now I feel bad because now I went and blabbed at all on our podcast. But.
11:49.36
Louise: Well yeah, except that people aren’t going to hear this until after you’re back. So it doesn’t matter. He’s not going to mind. No.
11:55.30
Brad: Um, oh that’s true I and I don’t think Charles would I don’t think he would know no, he’s yeah charles. Sorry but if if it’s a problem. Let me know I’ll make it up to you somehow? Um, but it won’t. Involved diapers I promise.
12:14.79
Louise: Wow! All right? Well there you go folks and scene.
12:20.36
Brad: Ah, oh Boy. So I think this. Ah so two speak specifically to feeling ah a lot of pressure and discomfort and anxiety I think it kind of comes out right in weird ways about about this. Adventure tomorrow. So Maybe I’m feeling a little extra punchy a little extra um bold ah boy I Hope we didn’t yeah.
12:36.70
Louise: Um, yeah.
12:42.54
Louise: Bold. Um.
12:46.22
Louise: Ah, definitely feeling bold that was a big share. Yeah yeah, there was definitely somebody else’s deep bursts us. We don’t know. Ah.
12:54.79
Brad: It but but it wasn’t like deep personal stuff. It was just this weird job that I did.
13:02.75
Brad: Well, you mean you mean the client the buyer. Yeah oh shoot. Maybe I shouldn’t have been talking about it.
13:04.23
Louise: Boy Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh well, it’s all good. It’s all good. It’s funny. So um, so you’re doing the waffle house thing. Ah.
13:18.48
Brad: Um, yeah, yeah, um so in in mostly it’s It’s a lot of training like sessions where I’m I’m really focusing on. Um, ah.
13:20.97
Louise: And then what else is going on.
13:34.82
Brad: Business side of things and marketing and client acquisition. That’s really my focus this year last year it was e-learning like I’m like any session about e-learning and that’s what I’m going to take whereas this year
13:43.20
Louise: Right? And so who is who’s doing workshops et cetera about the the the business part like is Mark Scott going to be there because he has. He’s some somebody that.
13:53.39
Brad: Oh man, you’re going to make me I didn’t see him on the schedule this year come to think of it. Ah if he were and and I I’m a huge fan of Mark Scott
14:09.90
Louise: Yeah, and for those who don’t know Mark Scott is a pretty big name in the industries’s he’s actually Canadian um and the vpreneur. Yeah that is his Facebook group and he’s he’s um, Mr. Marketing genius.
14:09.27
Brad: Ah, yeah, yeah, he’s the vpreneur.
14:24.63
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, mostly a lot of email marketing and um I didn’t I didn’t see him now I’ve sat in I went to his session last year and I went to his session when I was at Mid-atlantic voiceover conference.
14:25.29
Louise: Yeah.
14:39.81
Brad: And I’ve listened to I think every single podcast he’s ever put out and read a bunch of his bloglets. So if he were if he’s going to be there I I don’t know if I would necessarily sit in on his session again just because like not that I don’t have more to learn from him I Absolutely do. But there’s diminishing returns at a certain point right? like.
14:56.32
Louise: Right? It might just be a repetition at that point. Yeah.
14:58.93
Brad: Um, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and that’s not to say he’s repetitive I’m just but yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s right? Um, so what else and then last last? Yeah yeah.
15:05.97
Louise: No for you I mean? Yeah, so there’s because they have speakers and they have um workshops right? yeah.
15:17.59
Brad: Yeah, there’s you know it’s a conference so there’s a keynote speaker I don’t even remember who it is this year ah that’s another way I sort of deal with the anxiety is I don’t it’s weird. So I have I have 2 different ways of feeling about it right? like either either hyper prepare.
15:28.64
Louise: Ok.
15:34.93
Brad: And know everything about it down to the last detail like that’s what I did last year like last year like a month ahead of time I knew every session I was going to I knew who was leading those sessions I knew what times they were this year I’m like man I downloaded the app yesterday and I went through and I you know bookmarked. The ones that I wanted to go to and I don’t remember who the keynote speaker. It’s like you either overprepare or just don’t worry about it. You know, don’t worry about it at all.
15:59.99
Louise: Well and I think you’ve you’ve been like you said you’ve been once and done and done this sort of all the leg work and been overprepared and now maybe you’re just that that much more comfortable with what to expect right? So it doesn’t require quite as much.
16:11.42
Brad: I Think so yeah, yeah, yeah, and so I’m not yeah and so I don’t I don’t have any fear I know that once I get there I have friends I know people from before I’ve made a lot of connections since last year I know I’m going to know a lot of people I know I’m going to like.
16:17.53
Louise: Rabbit holeing.
16:31.13
Brad: I Know um I’m going to get a lot out of the sessions and ah you know and out of the socializing stuff. None of that I’m not afraid of any of that. But you still have this sort of it’s just a pressure right? like it’s a feeling of.
16:38.50
Louise: Yeah.
16:48.29
Louise: Um.
16:49.40
Brad: I’m going to be walking into this thing and I know it’s going to be hard on me socially I know and last year was nice because I stayed my hotel room was in the the Hilton where the conference was this year my hotel room is just down the street at the la quinta I like saying la quinta.
17:07.14
Louise: Nice.
17:09.11
Brad: Um, and so it’s a little bit of a walk so it’s not going to be as easy for me to just go hide in my room as it was last year um but I think I’m ok with that I think I’ll be all right? ah.
17:20.85
Louise: Yeah I just noticed that um because I I’ve always got sort of my little my idols that if I was going to go I’d be like who I definitely want to go to either a workshop or hear this person speak and I just noticed a Scott Brick will be there again.
17:28.99
Brad: Um.
17:32.45
Brad: Um, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and what’s amazing. Ah is that? Yeah yup, yep and what’s amazing about these conferences is they’re small enough and the the voice of her community is.
17:38.71
Louise: He’s like Audiobook god for anybody who doesn’t and who scottreck is you should know who Scott Brick is
17:51.57
Brad: It’s just so wonderful. Just delightful people. Ah all the way around um with very very few exceptions and when there are everybody knows and you just kind of like give them their their birth. Um, but you you could and and I and I heard that like people said this.
17:56.54
Louise: Um.
18:11.60
Brad: Before I went to viotlan and I’m like yeah is that really true or I would be too intimidated but you can sit next to scottbrick at lunch and just like talk about the chicken. You know what? I mean it’s crazy.
18:22.42
Louise: Yeah, and so as an Introvert I would not do that. Although ok, here’s the thing because we’ve talked about is introversion introversions more about um the. Sort of requirement for being social and being around people right whereas I actually think I So as much as I have I am an Introvert I also have shyness and shyness is not the same as Introversion. So I think I would be I would not.
18:43.83
Brad: Yeah, that’s right.
18:52.13
Louise: Sit next to Scott Brick because I’d be so shy.
18:56.29
Brad: That’s what I thought to I don it just kind of and I’m not saying I did sit next to Scott Brick but I got to hang out with Mark Scott and talk to him I got to hang out with um ah ah oh man, come on Kilpatrick ah, Kevin Kilpatrick and
19:11.14
Louise: Kevin.
19:13.81
Brad: Just like chat with them and they do They do their the um it was the the what was it the blue collllar Podcast Bleop What did it? What was it called before the blue collar voice of Praco but now it’s a different name. Um.
19:16.33
Louise: Um.
19:24.94
Louise: I Don’t know.
19:32.22
Brad: Man come on now that I have a podcast I really would like to be promoting all of the podcasts that have meant a lot to me over the years um it’s like it’s something about sound. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’d be great.
19:40.25
Louise: Um, it’s and it’s Kevin Kilpatrick’s ah what if I just to Google him well that.
19:47.31
Brad: But they do and they do an episode in their hotel room there and they pull all of the like the the top people like you know jmc ah and ah Scott Brick and just like all of the like Mark Scott like all of the like really important quote unquote people. Um, they pull them all into a hotel room but they also invite. Yeah that’s it making waste podcasts. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s it um, and and they invited me up there to just sort of like be in the room and it was just so cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:09.59
Louise: Um, is it making the making waves podcast. Ok.
20:20.14
Louise: That’s so fun I love that idea. Um, so yeah I’m still looking and so I was telling you I did five weeks of coaching with Tina Morascoe from sound and fury and she’s going to be there for those that don’t know ah, Tina Morasco is a casting director and.
20:29.74
Brad: Um, ah.
20:36.30
Louise: Ah, voiceover coach. Um.
20:37.56
Brad: Cool. Ah, you know what I’m going to try to figure out who she is and go up and say hi to her and say you worked with my friend Louise or my friend louise worked with you and I’m going to try and do that and start a conversation with her and then I’m a like.
20:47.32
Louise: Do it to do it. She’s so awesome. Ok Mark Scott’s on the list of speakers. So he’s going to be there. Yeah.
20:54.46
Brad: Want to run away. Ok he is all right? all right? Maybe I just didn’t you know because again because I’ve seen him so much that.
21:01.78
Louise: Um, right.
21:06.39
Brad: Sorry I had to tweak a technical thing on my end.
21:08.74
Louise: Oh no worries you dropped out there and I was like oh did I lose him.
21:13.88
Brad: Now. Um, so yeah, so okay, so I’m excited I’m anxious it is impacting my day today I have to say it’s Wednesday I fly out tomorrow afternoon I got I just feel like I’m under a lot of pressure to get.
21:20.44
Louise: Yeah.
21:29.14
Brad: Stuff done I have a bunch of recording I’m trying to get done today I got some stuff around the house I need to get done I knew we had this scheduled for today I ah really appreciate your offering to postpone it or or whatever. But no I think I think we yeah.
21:30.62
Louise: Yeah.
21:43.45
Louise: It’s fine and like I said we don’t have to do a full length today. Um, yeah oh I yeah so what about I’m pretty sure this person this woman was um, big on Linkedin Marketing Celia Siegel
21:45.10
Brad: Yeah.
22:00.23
Louise: So ring a bell.
22:00.36
Brad: Yeah, but I don’t remember I don’t remember her.
22:06.36
Louise: Um, so she it says she’s a talent manager brand buildilder author and success strategist and it’s a C Celia Siegel management
22:11.79
Brad: Well, she just unsubscribed from our podcast because we don’t remember I don’t remember who she is.
22:19.59
Louise: That’s ok I’m pretty sure she she’s somebody who’s big on Linkedin Marketing as well. Oh no, so maybe that’s who I’m thinking of is Tracy Lindley so but Celia Siegel I’ve heard her name as well as somebody who’s um, a good.
22:22.25
Brad: Yeah, her and Tracy Lindley is huge. Ah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and as when I just dropping names like these are people who.
22:37.48
Louise: Strategist and Brand builder. Yeah.
22:41.65
Brad: Are a have earned their way to importance in the voiceover community and b are ah genuinely nice sharing generous people. Mark Scott Tracy Lindley ah Kevin Kilpatrick um these are all just really great people and this is good for me.
22:56.65
Louise: Yeah.
23:00.34
Brad: To go in to sort of break refresh all of these names in my yeah, yeah yeah, so just feel kind of stressed and anxious. And yeah.
23:02.42
Louise: Yeah, and I’m sort of living vicariously through you as well. So now.
23:17.90
Louise: Um, that’s under santaball.
23:18.78
Brad: Volatile maybe today and there was some weird just um, let’s say some change it and some how would I want to put it ah on some unexpected. Ah, um.
23:33.40
Louise: Stuff with clients or yeah, yeah.
23:36.47
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, with a client that I’m working with this morning and he’s awesome. Great Love him? Um, but there were some changes that were needed that weren’t expected and so that set me back and.
23:46.97
Louise: Right? I feel like it must be something in the air because I’ve had a similar week where it’s been really busy but part of the busyness has been um, ah, kind of a surprising amount of revisions like more than I’m used to and ah.
23:59.26
Brad: Oh.
24:04.51
Louise: It always kind of sends me down the rabbit hole a bit where I start to question whether I’m good at this or not like I’m like oh I really didn’t do what they wanted me to and then you know ah like I had 1 one client where.
24:11.21
Brad: Oh.
24:22.26
Louise: I sent the revision I and and then I sent a follow up today and I was like I just want to make sure that you know the revision worked for you better and the response back was basically like you know it was much better. But I think maybe it’s you’re just not the right voice and I was like.
24:37.10
Brad: But that doesn’t But yeah.
24:38.92
Louise: Ah so I messaged back and I and I I I was just like you know I know that that can be true like absolutely sometimes you hear something and you’re like oh that is not what I envisioned so I just said you know if you want I can do more like I I Just yeah.
24:46.11
Brad: Yeah.
24:55.21
Brad: I get it I totally do. But I yeah.
24:55.77
Louise: It sends you down the rabbit hole. Sometimes you really start to question and then also even just getting in like in front of the microphone for me I know ah I’ll just start to get so self-conscious I’m totally get in my way in my own way and then it’s like.
25:06.40
Brad: Yeah, you get stuck in your head. Yeah yeah.
25:13.93
Louise: Might as well just write the rest of the week off I mean not really, but yeah, it’s just it doesn’t put you in a very good mood. It’s yeah.
25:16.81
Brad: Right? right? Very yeah, that sucks I’m sorry I Hope you do understand that you are good at this though, right? I mean we have ah objective evidence that you’re good at this and and like not every voice is right. For every job and that’s not like not being the right voice for something isn’t a reflection on your skill or ability right? like you know this I’m I’m now come on Now. No.
25:34.29
Louise: Yeah.
25:40.64
Louise: Or maybe it is and it’s like a genre thing or and they just they thought that I I don’t know I Yeah, it’s just say I’m in that mood of just like oh.
25:51.51
Brad: I Know you’ve been an actor for a long time I know you I know you get this like you know and I’m not trying to to invalidate your feelings I’m just trying to say hey underneath all of that Just remember that.
25:57.20
Louise: Mm.
26:05.48
Louise: Yeah, and I think maybe part of it too is that voiceover. You know much like kind of any art um form as much as of course this is a business but the actual voice over part of it is.
26:21.50
Brad: Yeah.
26:22.70
Louise: Is an art. It’s a skill but it’s an art. Um, that part of it seems very subjective right? Yeah so what 1 person like somebody else might hate.
26:29.74
Brad: And very emotionally engaged and you know emotions are involved right? You know by necessity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I see what you mean? Yeah yep.
26:41.50
Louise: Um, you know? So yeah, it’s just and it can be very hard then to as the as the performer or the person doing the job is like to so be able to step back and listen to it objectively and go ok.
26:58.77
Brad: Um.
27:00.60
Louise: Am I meeting the specs am I doing you know what was asked what was directed. You know what’s in the script. All those things but it’s you at the same time. So it’s also your interpretation of things and it’s just it can be hard sometimes and sometimes it seems way harder than it than it should be.
27:10.94
Brad: Yeah.
27:17.31
Brad: Yeah, absolutely and and and it’s easy for me to say Kamma Luise you know you’re good but I you know I just turned in a job and I did 3 takes and he’s like ok this is great I think we’re going to go with the the the second take and I’m like.
27:19.69
Louise: Um.
27:33.91
Brad: What was wrong with the first and the third take so like even just it.
27:36.79
Louise: Oh Well in this job that I’m specifically talking about I did I did an Abc role and and he still came back and was like that you know can you try it like this and I was like oh ah I mean sure it’s hard not to take it personally I mean of course. Sensibly and intellectually I know it’s not personal, but it’s it’s still you right? You’re the one doing it. So yeah, it’s just ah, ah.
27:54.23
Brad: Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you yeah, did you did you offer the idea of a directed session because we’re in a weird like this is a new era for voiceover right? like until.
28:08.90
Louise: Yeah.
28:12.38
Brad: Eight years ago maybe even 5 years maybe even three years ago like most voiceover was done in a studio with an engineer and a director and you went into the studio to do it.
28:14.21
Louise: Yeah.
28:20.97
Louise: Ah, yeah.
28:25.62
Brad: Now we live in a world where voiceover is done in your home in your own studio. You get the script you self-direct which is super hard to do to begin with.
28:32.17
Louise: Yeah, and and often you’re being booked on ah Demos or previous work samples and not on auditions like it’s it can be a bit of both. Um, sometimes that’s the case too. Yeah, exactly and so what.
28:38.64
Brad: Um, yep, and and you’re being booked by people who don’t have experience booking voice actors you know yup.
28:49.58
Louise: Sometimes what they think they want even might not be what we understand to be current or sort of desirable within the marketplace and their their idea might be yeah, it just might be off like off from that. So so it can be hard to decipher but an answer to your question that I offer directed session. So I I haven’t yet what I did say was so he had basically given me the ah 1 version of the voiceover in another language and so I was trying to come close to.
29:22.95
Brad: Ah.
29:27.65
Louise: What that was um in terms of sort of feel and tone and all the things and then when he came back and asked me for the for the retake he was like make sure you watch the video because that’ll really give you an indication of.
29:29.73
Brad: Ah.
29:45.28
Brad: Oh man.
29:46.17
Louise: What I wanted to sound like and I was like that is so interesting that he oh, there’s a garbage truckout back on hope that might make it end to the recording. Um, it’s so interesting that he didn’t hear me ah like he didn’t think that I’d listen to the.
29:54.88
Brad: That’s right.
30:03.75
Brad: Right? Yeah, yeah, you’re like oh gee. Thanks for the tip like I didn’t think of that and yeah.
30:05.28
Louise: And I’d watched the video like multiple times. Ah it wasn’t even that it’s like I’ve had that situation before where um in a coaching in coaching sessions too where people would be like ok well make sure you pay attention to XYAndZ and I’m in my head I’m like I am.
30:24.80
Louise: See this comes back to what we’re talking about before about humility and ego because sometimes you think that you’re doing the thing that is being asked of you ah acting wise and and you’re all it is is you’re thinking it. It’s not coming through.
30:41.81
Brad: Yep, yeah.
30:42.24
Louise: So That’s where I had to step back and go Okay, maybe even though I thought I was doing this like exactly what he wanted from his video example I wasn’t so I went back and I did it Again. He said it was Better. So now. What I’ve suggested is is there something else that exists like sort of in English that you think is closer. To what you want to hear from this and I’ll see what he says but I think a directed sessions A great idea too. But at the same time he might not want to do that like he might just want to move on and find a voice. That’s you know and I respect that? yeah.
31:02.29
Brad: Ah.
31:10.80
Brad: Yeah, and that’s too bad, but if you if sometimes they’ll like you know you’ll audition and they’ll hear you and they’ll think oh yeah, that’s the voice I want. But then when you get into it and then there then they realize that they want something different. You know.
31:24.50
Louise: Um, yeah, exactly yeah.
31:29.69
Brad: So I know I’m not I’m not saying you shouldn’t feel your feels at the same time. Try not to take it personally because it’s not about your skill or how good you are at it or whatever it’s It’s just not.
31:44.32
Louise: Yeah, and I think um, it is important to sort of highlight like this kind of profession has so much more rejection than it than not. Ah, there was a.
31:51.77
Brad: Oh yeah.
31:58.25
Louise: Somebody posted in one of the groups a couple of days ago about um I don’t remember exactly what it was but of something like maybe I should just give up and I’m not good at this I’ve had ah like 10 auditions or 10 reject. Did you see it? Yeah and so all of us of course are like what is what? how does this person. Not.
32:08.95
Brad: I Saw that no I saw exactly that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:17.60
Louise: Understand that that’s not even a drop in the bucket in terms of rejection. But if you’re new. You might not know that and anyone who’s listening who isn’t in this industry or an actor might not understand that either. It’s like you might need to put in. You know.
32:19.31
Brad: Yeah.
32:30.20
Brad: Yeah.
32:36.84
Louise: Thirty forty fifty one ah hundred auditions before you book something 200 yeah depending on where you’re starting like I heard 1 person said when they first started you know they they put in a thousand auditions before they got a role you know so it’s not unheard of.
32:37.60
Brad: A hundred two hundred auditions yeah
32:51.20
Brad: Um, yeah, that’s right, the super like cynical side of me saw that post and wanted to say if you auditioned 10 times and didn’t get cast and that’s a problem for you.
32:53.34
Louise: I Mean that might be a bit more to the extreme I’m not sure but um.
33:08.90
Brad: Then this isn’t the right job for you like like if if if you if you don’t have the patience to get rejected 10 times you really should go find something else to do I don’t really feel that about that person. They just didn’t understand right? But exactly.
33:16.88
Louise: Yeah. Well and it’s hard to know from a Facebook post what the background is and what exactly I mean so much is lost in terms of context when people are posting online and and it may just be something that was really react reactionary for someone who was totally new where they’re just like you know, freaking out.
33:27.80
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:39.62
Brad: And to be honest, some of the some of the Youtube channels and podcasts and stuff they kind of paint the picture that that’s you you know you get a usb mike.
33:41.28
Louise: But um, yeah.
33:57.46
Brad: And you can make 6 figures by talking into a microphone I mean that’s if you don’t if you don’t know if you don’t have a yeah yeah yeah, if you don’t have a good. No yeah, if you don’t have a good filter for bs.
34:00.50
Louise: Yeah, there’s definitely a lot of that circulating make money in your pajamas. Yeah yeah, I’m actually in my pajamas. But what I’m not yeah.
34:14.99
Brad: Like you know and end on top of that on top of that you see there are people who do have just by some weird just the they were the right voice at the right time and they got the right job and that led to something else.
34:17.50
Louise: You have to have thick skin I yeah.
34:31.89
Louise: Um, like the overnight success stories. Yeah, um, it’s not the norm those are anomalies. Yeah yeah.
34:33.26
Brad: There are people who do succeed very quickly so you can’t say it’s impossible. You know like to like have quick success but it’s absolutely not the norm and a lot of the people who we’ve known that have had that situation lasted six months because or a year because they got success super fast. But then when that that doesn’t last and then when you really have to work for it when you when you then you have to really dig in and start auditioning and doing marketing and you’re like why do I have to do all this crap I’m like I’m awesome at this and then they get frustrated and then they.
35:07.39
Louise: Um, right? or they can’t keep up a demand I mean a lot of businesses that grow too quickly get like fold. So yeah.
35:10.30
Brad: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah problems I’d like to have but whatever Oh can I actually something you mentioned brought brought to mind. Ah.
35:25.44
Louise: Um.
35:27.99
Brad: A conversation I wanted to have but changing years. It’s it’s video related. But I think people will will will go there with me when you said that he had sent you the sample video but it was in another language. So my wife loves.
35:32.25
Louise: Um, okay.
35:47.35
Brad: The show Love is blind. Are you familiar with it.
35:50.21
Louise: Ah, so I’ve heard people talk about it on the internet but I’ve never seen it never seen a snippet of it I don’t really know what it is other than maybe it’s like a blind date type thing or.
35:55.85
Brad: Ok, super simple. Yeah, it’s ok so super Simple. It’s a quote unquote ah sociological experiment but it’s not like a science. It’s not like they don’t have control groups. It’s not like scientifically done but it’s still kind of interesting in Concept. So. They have a group of you know men and a group of women in their twenty s and 30 s and they keep them separated but they have these like pods where the dude will go in the pod on one side and the the woman will go on the pot on the other side and they can hear each other but they can’t see each other and so they.
36:29.75
Louise: It’s like wasn’t there was a dating game in the 80 s on Tv that was like this.
36:32.27
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is like that times a thousand because they’re they’re they’re like in this environment for like weeks. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they’re in this environment for like weeks. They live there and they go on dates with the different potential partners.
36:37.65
Louise: Um, describe your perfect date bachelor number one now not like that butter I’m aging myself, got it.
36:52.80
Brad: It’s all heterosexual. But it’s um, it’s all men and women so whatever. Ah, but um, so they really kind of get to know each other without seeing what each other they don’t know what each other looks like they don’t know each other outside of this very sort of rarefied confined environment.
36:55.74
Louise: Um.
37:10.16
Brad: Ah situation and they get to know each other they sort of pick the person that they think they’re the best match with and then the idea is that they then propose to them for marriage and then then once they’ve proposed if the.
37:10.38
Louise: Um.
37:23.14
Louise: Wow wow.
37:28.79
Brad: Other person accepts then they’re they’re engaged and then then they meet each other and they have this weird sort of ceremony not ceremony. But this sort of like thing where the you know they’re across this beautiful thing room and then the the doors go up and then they cross and they come together to like meet for the first time. Physically and some of them just like stop there and you know, but most of them then they then they go on a vacation together and then they live together for a few weeks and then they meet each other’s family and friends and then they decide whether or not they want to actually get married and a lot of times the decision happens at the altar. Right? Like and this is all quote unquote reality tv so it’s all televised and there’s cameras through the whole thing and it’s sort of you know you know very amplified because of all that and sometimes they wait up until they’re actually at the altar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they’re actually at the altar and one or the other of them will be like.
38:17.66
Louise: Yeah, heavily edited somewhat scripted. Maybe yeah.
38:26.59
Brad: Yeah, no I thought this was good but I’m out. Yeah, so all all of that to to say my wife loves this show I watch it over her shoulder sometimes or or you know if she’s watching it and I just kind of sit in and watch with her but she also loves the foreign version so they had.
38:30.00
Louise: Um, yeah, it’s a no for me. Ah, yeah.
38:46.23
Brad: I think love is blind Sweden and we just watched love is blind Japan I watched some of it with her. So there’s the people are all speaking their native languages but it’s dubbed by american voice actors for the american audience I have i.
39:01.12
Louise: Um, ok.
39:05.87
Brad: You’d think I would be a huge fan of dubbing because I’m a voice actor I like foreign movies and stuff dubbing really gets on my nerves I really have a hard time watching? Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, okay, good good good. Yeah, and maybe because I I like I just.
39:09.98
Louise: I hate it I’ve never liked dubbing I’d much rather the subtitles.
39:20.16
Brad: I can’t let go in my mind the image of the voice actors in the studio at at their you know on their neuman you get you 30? What’s the big noiseman mind you know I mean I know what? Mike They ‘re using I know what the studio looks like there and and I just can’t get that out of my mind while I’m watching. But for some reason. It’s fun I don’t know I won’t say it works in love is blind but it’s fascinating to watch and to think about the decisions that the the american voice actors are making to sort of match what they’re seeing on the screen.
39:44.74
Louise: So.
39:50.44
Louise: Right.
39:55.63
Brad: And I just I’m just super curious about how much direction they get and how much Um, you know how? how? yeah yeah, yeah, oh absolutely. But how much time they spend watching the show in Japanese to kind of understand the character. They’ll be playing.
40:00.32
Louise: Oh for a show like that for sure they’re yeah they’re being directed. Yeah.
40:13.23
Brad: It’s just got to be a really really strange but probably enjoyable and it probably pays pretty well a job you know gig to be the american dub voice for because they’re not trying to do lip flaps or anything like that and 1 thing that helps is they they don’t. They leave the japanese like that they leave their audio in so you can hear them underneath the american dubbing right? You can hear they’re talking underneath in japanese. But you mostly hear and that helps because it’s not like trying to like create an illusion that they’re speaking in english that would be weird right? Um, it’s clearly a translation over what they’re saying in their own language and because they’re japanese half of them.
40:52.36
Louise: Right.
41:03.21
Brad: Speak English Anyway, so there would be sections where they would be speaking in English but but I just it was just super fascinating watching that and listening and thinking what a weird but cool gig that would be um to be the.
41:14.30
Louise: And I also think yeah dubbing is hard for the obvious reason of just trying to sink words that are not the same shape as the words being spoken. That’s yeah, but the other thing I think the even harder part is languages and cultures just differ.
41:20.87
Brad: Yeah, and that’s not happening here. But yeah.
41:31.96
Brad: Yeah.
41:33.88
Louise: Like so things literally get lost in translation.
41:38.57
Brad: Yeah, especially from Japanese to English like Asian languages ah to to Western languages. It’s just like it’s almost like a different philosophy. Yeah yeah, someone was like a different language.
41:48.52
Louise: Is it like a different language. Yeah, you might as well be speaking Japanese Yeah now I see what you’re saying to yeah culturally, it’s very different. Yeah.
41:54.80
Brad: It’s a different It’s a whole different philosophy of communicating. Yes, right? Ah, you know it’s it’s it’s weird. Yeah yeah, and and it’s interesting culturally watching the differences too that was one of the things that I did enjoy about the show. Um, you know I I used to do. Fonsai and Kendo and I took japanese in college. So I’m I’m like kind of a fan boy of japanese culture. Um, the the new culture and even more so like the traditional culture. So. It’s very interesting to me I’m not pretending I have any insight into japanese culture that most.
42:23.49
Louise: Um.
42:33.13
Brad: People don’t Um, but I find their culture really interesting and fascinating. So that was really interesting for me to so to watch. Um, it also made me think this is I’m kind of wandering off the path here but like um if Western culture hadn’t been introduced to.
42:38.65
Louise: Um.
42:51.53
Brad: Asian cultures How much different they would even be because now they’re like pulling all of this stuff you know and that’s Fine. You know what? what they like of Western culture. They’re pulling into their culture and stuff but also watching this made me think what if they had like what if they had remained isolated or if the west just didn’t exist. What would their culture be like like it would be much much different I think.
43:10.59
Louise: That is such a big question because that’s like you could say that about any culture. Yeah, and there are so many influences that are like colonialized and yeah.
43:18.11
Brad: That’s true, True true, True True. But you know and and I think yeah, that’s true. Yeah, but when you’re American or North American I Should even say I think Canadian is similar. You kind of have you’re surrounded by. Our culture I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know and where I’m going with that. But.
43:40.63
Louise: We started off talking about dubbing and now we’re we’re just walked into a completely different. Ah Arena That’s ok, that’s ok.
43:46.81
Brad: Yeah, sorry about that. But anyways I just I just I I was fascinated watching that the work that was being done and sometimes you know you see voice over and you like you see the work being done and um, it’s it’s I think that’s really interesting.
44:01.46
Louise: Um, one thing I find interesting about dubbing too is the rates at least the rates listed on the the gva rate guide like they’re not very good rates.
44:12.45
Brad: Um, I know I feel like.
44:16.77
Louise: And I don’t know if it’s different like if you’re in you know the union and the states or like I don’t know how any of that works. But my God it takes so much skill to have it pay So little. Yeah.
44:27.33
Brad: Um, yup, yeah, yeah, and and you and you listen to you know the the folks that are doing all of the dubbing for the the anime stuff that’s coming into the country. And have been doing it for years like Kris Ben Freeman and those guys like it just doesn’t like it sounds like it would be so hard to build a career doing that like because you have to live in I you have to live in l a if you want to do like normal um animation.
44:42.68
Louise: Right.
44:56.29
Louise: Well and I guess to the other thing is if you’re a celebrity voice your pay rate is so much different. It’s not it’s on a gva rate guide but rate what oh.
45:02.95
Brad: Um, yeah, but let’s talking to these guys. It’s not like it’s not like yeah they’re not like making you know two Mill Um, a movie sort of thing. You know what I mean like they have to go to conventions to make.
45:11.51
Louise: Right.
45:17.99
Brad: Ends me like yeah you know what? I mean like they have to get paid to go to conventions to make ends meet and to sell Merch and stuff like that like it’s not like you know you’re your and I think it depends I’m I’m talking on my butt here. But yeah i.
45:25.40
Louise: Huh Wow. To make ends meet or is that part of their contract I like I don’t maybe that’s part of them promoting I don’t know I don’t know anything about it. But yeah, that strikes me as odd.
45:36.38
Brad: Yeah, yeah, I just know from listening to Krispin Freeman’s podcast and and ah um, man I need to show up with the names written down if I knew ahead of time. Um. He he and his wife they do a lot of animation. They wrote a really good book on voiceover. Um, yeah, if I remember um but you know it’s like they make a living. Don’t get me wrong, but it’s not like they’re it’s not like they’re driving their back.
45:59.21
Louise: We’ll put it in the show notes.
46:13.40
Brad: Lambo is around you know like it’s it’s a different industry than on screen. You know, um and I’m talking out of my bomb because it’s not like I’m I’m just that’s right.
46:13.88
Louise: Right. Yeah, for sure. Um, you don’t know their actual personal financial situations or what they get paid.
46:32.14
Brad: I’m only speaking for my understanding based on listening to what people are saying about that industry and it’s an industry that I think would be fun but I’m not yeah I’m not really that interested in it I’ve tried doing a yeah yeah I’ve tried doing a little dubbing and trying to match Lip Flaps and it’s it’s.
46:40.13
Louise: In dubbing you mean? or yeah I’ve done a little tiny tiny bet for little short films and it’s just so difficult.
46:50.78
Brad: So frustrating and so difficult and yeah.
46:55.47
Louise: And even for ah you know I I Always wonder to the engineering side of dubbing like it’s similar to ad R which is when when the actress have to go into the studio to re recordd something that didn’t come out correctly in the original shoot like it.
47:09.60
Brad: Um, yeah.
47:10.64
Louise: I Don’t understand how engineers and I’m sure there are some that really get at it but it must take so much time and effort that that maybe it can’t be done all the time but it’s like the sound of being in a studio is a lot different than the environments that you’re seeing.
47:23.85
Brad: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:28.89
Louise: Ons screen right? So whether that environment might be someone is outside or someone is in a cafe or you know even if they put in all of those that the sort of background noise and the the walla that goes along with it like the actual voice sound between a studio and like real life.
47:44.43
Brad: Um.
47:48.29
Louise: Is so much different. So it’s it’s can be really distracting like I now notice we’ll be watching a show and I’ll I’ll notice whether something is Adr or not like you can hear it immediately. You’re like oh that’s not what it sounds like if someone’s outside. So.
47:56.45
Brad: Um, um, yeah I know yeah yeah, because it’s yeah.
48:05.87
Louise: Yeah, it’s interesting. Yeah, it’s quite the skill. But anyways, we’re coming up on 48 minutes and you’ve got you know what do you’ve got to get ready to go to Vo Atlanta which is so exciting I’m so excited for you? yeah.
48:11.26
Brad: Yeah, we’re rolling into the end here I know I got so much to do? Yeah, thanks! Thanks! Thanks! Thanks! I just need to get over get through the next twenty minutes
48:27.91
Louise: Um, minutes now. Yeah and are so are you flying or driving. Yeah ok how long a drive would it be.
48:29.77
Brad: The next twenty hours I think um yeah, oh no, no, it’s too far to drive I’m in Baltimore I would it be to Atlanta um I’m I’m going to guess I’m going to look it up but while I’m looking up and I’m going to guess 12 hours
48:45.20
Louise: Oh ok, yeah I don’t think I realized it was that far from you maybe I was thinking it’s closer to Troy because he’s in Tennessee. Yeah, ok yeah, he’s closer. Yeah.
48:49.63
Brad: Atlanta georgia directions. Yeah Troy’s like 3 or 4 hours away I think um.
49:06.25
Brad: Ah, oh I was close to 10 hours 15 minutes 11 hours so I was I was really close I mean you got to stop for lunch so that adds an hour so you know ah 11 hour drive you’d have price stop for more than lunch. But um, yeah.
49:08.86
Louise: Um, ok yeah, um.
49:18.80
Louise: Gotcha all right? Well safe travels and enjoy and I guess we need to do our spontaneous and tagline sure you did did you prewrite this because that it gets disqualified immediately.
49:23.48
Brad: Thanks. Yeah I think I I just thought of one a few minutes ago you’re ready no I did not no no no I literally I forgot to even think about it until just a few minutes ago okay it will show you’ll you’ll hear. Ah, would you say I can’t hear you you’re using your.
49:35.47
Louise: Okay, okay, okay.
49:43.81
Louise: Now I hate it.
49:44.46
Brad: Inside voice. No I hope you hate it because it’s.
49:52.14
Louise: Ah, that is a like hard now.
49:54.70
Brad: Plus is the opposite of everything we’re trying to express how about this. What I heard you completely clearly even though you’re using your inside voice.
50:00.38
Louise: Ah, er.
50:11.55
Louise: You are feeling spicy today hey you’re just like you’re being a shit disturber. Ah oh is that what that is all so your reaction is just like rail against it. Ok.
50:16.58
Brad: Ah I’m feeling very vulnerable that that’s what I’m feeling today very vulnerable and very open and that’s that’s yeah, yeah, that wasn’t meant to be malicious though. It was just meant to be like okay okay.
50:28.46
Louise: Um, oh I didn’t suggest I wasn’t suggesting it was. It’s funny to me. Ah like you’re suggesting that I thought of anything just because I’m criticizing your ideas doesn’t mean I have any of my own.
50:34.81
Brad: Okay, so what’s yours yours better be pretty fricking good though after that.
50:47.11
Brad: Ah, oh boy we haven’t gotten any email by the way with any suggestions. So if anyone in the audience is feeling critical right now y’all need to not because.
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Louise: Um, um, critical or just inspired by what I’m not sure. Um, something independent of this episode. Ah,, let’s see um how about ah ok I got it. Don’t be shy. The world needs your inside voice and.
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Brad: Ah I like that. Okay, don’t be shy. The world needs your inside voice. Okay do you want to split it. Ok your.
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Louise: So let’s let’s think about who’s going to say so I want you to whisper inside voice this time. Um, so be don’t be shy the world needs and then you say you’re inside voice. Yeah ok ready. Don’t be shy.
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Brad: Your inside voice. Yeah your inside voice. Okay, let’s try that.
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Brad: Your inside voice. Yeah, how about that we’re getting better at coming up with tagline set. We’re probably not going to use.
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Louise: World needs. Yay Okay of it I mean I think that’s the first one I’ve come home since I was come up for since episode one I think you’ve come up with all of the other ones. Ah, because you put me on the spot and you were like ok Miss is critical think of thought bag. Yeah.
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Brad: That’s fine. Um I certainly hadn’t noticed that. So.
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Louise: Ok I going to listen by to the ends of all of the episodes and see start I’m going to I’m going to create a spreadsheet because we all know how much I love spreadsheets. Yeah.
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Brad: Right? to sisy.
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Brad: Yes, all right? Well let’s say it 1 more time so we can sign off and and head on out of here. Okay, my part’s easy your inside voice ya by louise.
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Louise: No I Forget it already. Oh I got it I got it? Yeah ok, don’t be shy. The world needs. Yay Bye brad.